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and didn't need caffeine because the speakers were firing them up. and of course, virginia governor bob mcdonnell spoke and the thing that had their attention focused, were the results of the straw poll. who people think will win and should win the republican nomination in 2012. >> mike huckabee missed coming in first by 11 votes. so, that, you know, pence couldn't get all the attention, but huck, i guess, a crowd favorite. >> and last year, mike huckabee won and this year pence was the winner, huckabee second. romney third, gingrich fourth. and palin who didn't go because she was in des moines at the g.o.p. fun raiser came in fifth place. >> who people chose for vice-president was interesting, he chose mike pence and he had to withdraw his name from that and then it became sarah palin was the winner of the vice-president one. rick santorum, paul ryan, demint and mike huckabee last. >> mike pence not somebody our viewers know a tremendous amount about. congressman from indiana second arguably most high profile because governor mitch daniels, a lot of folks across the state and country l
, it's not true. virginia is a right to work state, finlands touted as being an excellent example of educational opportunity is pro union in a unionized education system. >> you don't think that the unions in this country are protecting incompetent teachers? >> i think when you really get to the issue what we're talking about is tenure and i do agree there needs to be some reforms in terms of the way that teachers are evaluated, in terms of getting their tenure and keeping their tenure. but principals are the once that decides on tenure and without tenure i wouldn't be sitting here today. it's a protection that's absolutely necessary so that teachers can join with parents and advocate with them for their children. >> what did you think about the message of the reason why kids are woefully underserved? >> well, i mean, i want to say that like you, i cried, it should not take a lottery for a child to receive a quality public education in one of the world's super power nations. >> what you're talking about, is there are these charter schools and parents and children are clamoring in
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